@adders Ugh. Importing the absolute worst features of american consumer culture into an already perfect coffee consumption environment just smacks of entitlement and presumption.
Italy's culture is affordable, equal, simple. The bastardised american variant is the opposite, and deserves neither praise nor emulation.
@dgold I spent twelve months of 1989-90 in Turin. A cappuccino was 1200 lire, or about 60p (around 45-50 US cents, probably) at the time.
And it was delicious. The growth of Starbucks and the other chains came after that, and I've been looking for coffee as good ever since. I've never found it. The closest in London was Costa in its early days, but nothing matches my memory of Torinese cappuccino, despite being six times the price.
@adders Indeed. And from my experience it seems that international coffee culture was inspired by Italian coffee culture in the first place.
Or at least the coffee, if not all of the culture. Cappuccino, obviously, and lattes are based on “latte macchiato,” or "stained milk”: a frothy milk with a shot of coffee in it.
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