brentsimmons
brentsimmons
Estimating NetNewsWire for iOS Demand inessential.com
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smokey
smokey

@brentsimmons Which also means that RSS is also alive and well, despite pundits’ repeated protestations of its demise and/or disuse 👍

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brentsimmons
brentsimmons

@smokey This whole thing was set off by somebody saying on Twitter that they were one of the dozen people still using an RSS reader. They were going with that low “dozen” number for effect, obviously, but still it made me wonder how many people are using RSS readers.

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smokey
smokey

@brentsimmons Yes, I imagine if there were “real” numbers for RSS, it would shock people. (And the NNW iOS Testflight numbers are mind-blowing!)

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philipbrewer
philipbrewer

@brentsimmons Me! (My brother runs a tt-rss server that I also use.)

I don't use iOS though. (Mac for desktop and laptop, Android for phone.)

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bradenslen
bradenslen

@brentsimmons I would not be surprised if the numbers on iOS exceed the Mac app numbers. NetNewsWire has a long history of excellence within the Apple ecosystem and a lot of built up name recognition which translates to street cred. I think a lot of people will give it a try if they hear about it.

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frankm
frankm

@brentsimmons I use River5 and when I find something I want to read I send it to Radio3 to add it to an RSS feed that is monitored by IFTTT to add to Instapaper. Basically it’s my replacement for Radio Userland. I am nervous about being dependent on Dave to keep Radio3 running.

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Ron
Ron

@frankm I'll bet you could arrange for @Andysylvester to provide a backup for your Radio 3 installation.

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tingham
tingham

@brentsimmons Really interesting post, I've never been a mobile RSS reading sort, I've been using @Newsblur since reader shut-down and I'm just waiting for a desktop app to support their internal comments/blurblog system to stop using the web version

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frankm
frankm

@Ron @Andyslvester Radio3 is not constructed as a server application, it is browser based and all this code is dependent on Fargo to which Dave never made a repo and thus there is no access to the source. It works as long as radio3.io and fargo.io remain online. While I could grab the HTML source for radio3.io I am not sure I could get the code off fargo.io, and at a minimum there is a lot of reverse engineering that I am not sure is worth the time.

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v
v

@brentsimmons I’ve been happily paying for FeedWrangler since Reader shut down. (still rooting for NNW support for it)

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brentsimmons
brentsimmons

@v Our goal is to support FeedWrangler and every other syncing system. It just takes time. :)

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v
v

@brentsimmons I know. I’m willing to patiently wait. NNW was one of the reasons I switched to Mac originally (14+ years ago), and I look forward to picking it back up (when the time comes).

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rom
rom

@brentsimmons Is there a way to just use iCloud - save the sync state?

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brentsimmons
brentsimmons

@rom We’re investigating that as a possible future feature. The problem is that there’s a ton of sync state to save. :)

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AndySylvester
AndySylvester

@frankm @Ron thanks for the vote of confidence, but I agree with Frank that the reverse engineering of Radio3 is not worth the time - better to find other apps to use. I am doing some experiments with trying to capture bookmarks for sites, see my blog for details.

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frankm
frankm

@AndySylvester I am really using Radio3 to create a RSS feed. An equivalent approach for me would be to just open an article from my River and use the Instapaper bookmarklet to save it. The ideal would be to directly send an article from an RSS aggregator to Instapaper that would take the middle steps out.

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rom
rom

@brentsimmons oh yeah - every feed’s status needs to be saved. Tsk tsk.

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brentsimmons
brentsimmons

@rom Every article’s status needs to be saved, which ends up being a lot of statuses.

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rom
rom

@brentsimmons yeah, figured that that is taxing.

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Ron
Ron

@AndySylvester No problem. I think I still use Radio 3, but I probably get it from Dave. I thought I was getting from you, so I thought you might be able to help Frank. But it looks like all three of us are directly getting it from Dave, so we're all in the same boat!

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frankm
frankm

@Ron @AndySylvester What might be worth doing is finding (or developing if need be) an open tool for creating & hosting a RSS or JSON feed. For me the purpose of such a tool is to simplify the process of curating items to be read later.

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