Ron
Ron

Woz got the right start in electronics by becoming a ham at the age of 10 years old. Now he fully supports the Right to Repair movement & explains why in this video. I still have many 50 year old radios & there are many hams who can still repair them. πŸ“»

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Ron
Ron

@Ron It must be a generational thing.

At first I didn't mind being much older than everyone else here, but now I often have nothing much to say and hardly anyone to say it to. That happens as one gets older.

Then I stumbled onto a brand new video from Woz and I thought, "Oh, here's something all these Apple folks will like, someone they will listen to." But nothing. Crickets. I thought it was a pretty darn good video, but then I realized he's an old guy now too. Maybe some don't even know who he is!

My first ever computer was an Apple II and it did have a nice community, when they were our computers, not the company's.

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ndreas
ndreas

@Ron I like you being here even though I don’t have much to say about Woz or the history of Apple. But I was fascinated by the biography of Jobs, I read the book with much joy a couple of years ago. I like reading in general. Do you?

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V_
V_

@Ron, I don't think it's a generational thing. I find it quite surprising which posts create reactions and which not. And most often, the post doesn't create replies.

But on topic now :-) I find the right to repair movement quite important, but my biggest issue is just that it is another topic where you need to fight against the whole world. And most of the time, I don't have the energy for this. I was following Louis Rossmann channel for a while, but I needed to stop it. His message is essential. But somehow, it's always so negative, and I think he is filled with so much anger.

Another point in this topic that is painful for me is that it would mean that I would need to search for a new hardware provider, as you cannot use Apple with a good consciousness now – and that is a topic I don't want to think about now.

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Ron
Ron

@ajennische I have the Jobs book, but haven't read it yet. Jobs and I have a mutual friend in Andy Herzfeld, the guy who wrote much of the first Mac operating system. I met Andy through the Bob Dylan community at Stanford, as Andy is a huge Dylan fan. He told me a lot of stories about Jobs, who also liked Bob, but mostly just his early stuff. Andy was much more active as a Bob fan and collected tapes of his shows when Bob was touring.

Yes, I like to read & have collected quite a large library, but I don't make enough time for reading. I spend too much time on the Internet. 😁 πŸ“š

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ndreas
ndreas

@Ron internet and reading books are on the opposite side of the spectrum (if you’re not an iPhone/iPad/kindle reader that is).

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Ron
Ron

@V_ I feel the same way about Apple. Soon after owning the Apple II I had to switch to the PC, as it very promptly became the standard in the accounting industry. Apple didn't even realize that a CPA in TX had written the best double entry software for the Apple II, so when IBM came out with the first PC, they won the accounting market with inferior software and not even a fight from Apple. But decades later I'm still glad I have not been locked in to one company. They obviously like their position, so I doubt they will switch to Woz's position on repairs. I wonder whether he and Jobs disagreed on this topic.

I would still be uncomfortable being locked in to a company like Apple.

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Ron
Ron

@ajennische Yes. I have a Kindle, but I rarely use it because I prefer books by a wide margin. I'm sure I will always prefer books. πŸ“š

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