@tracydurnell This is on my mind at the moment and while listening to a radio interview today I realised all the talk is of 1 or 1.5 degrees … I understand what the consequences are but it still seems like such a tiny amount. After all, I have enough money to be comfortable. I'm not going to stress over whether vegetables I buy cost $10 or $11. That $1 is of no real concern to me. 1 is such a small number. But if it was front and centre to quantify the effects of that 1 degree it would have more impact. I know people do mention effects in a background kind of way, but mostly it's all about 1.5 degrees. If instead we had human-relatable effects like malaria-carrying mosquitoes may arrive in New Zealand, food crops will be reduced by drought making prices higher and leading to food shortages, critical coastal infrastructure like roads may be washed away by sea level rise meaning goods can't get through. Stuff like that would hit us where we actually care about it. I know that 1.5 degrees is critical but stop talking about that and start talking about what it means to our need for food, our wallets and so on.