Nuance? We Don’t Need No Stinking’ Nuance …. john.philpin.com

@JohnPhilpin Excellent post. Everything is polarized now. And you are right, it was bullying, I'm just amazed so many could not see that.

@bradenslen maybe they could but didn’t mention it?

Sometimes I do wonder if 'no likes' is the totally right thinking ... maybe upvote/downvote is a way, because otherwise you only ever hear from those that have the time - because it requires a comment ... which by design takes time - but by design limits the 'public approval/rejection vote.

In most cases who cares - I understand the thinking, but on something like that ... different kettle of fish.

If a comment takes 'a minute' and a 'click' takes a second ... your response count is always going to be 1/60th on Micro.Blog.

@bradenslen extra thoughts on bullying ...

🔗 Chris Best on Substack

To which Kottke writes ...

🔗 Approvingly citing Musk/X and Zuck/Meta, Substack reiterates its commitment to support Nazis, antisemites, anti-vaxxers, transphobes, and homophobes in spreading disinformation & hate under the guise of “free speech”.

and what JK writes I have read similar ... often. I read Substackers a lot and never ever come across anything that hits that description. Though according to people I read - they are there.

The difference is that I get a choice on Substack - and if i choose not to follow those accounts - I don't see them. (Or at least I assume that is how it s working.)

In fact you would have to use the app to actually see any of that stuff ... and if my stats are anyting to go by - their app readership is a very small percentage of the email subscriptions ....

Here's the question ... is JK bullying? Just pointing stuff out? Trying to 'out them'? Back them down?

What do you (and anyone else) think is going on?

@JohnPhilpin I too like Likes. Fast simple and no long term commitment. Up/down votes are harder.

@JohnPhilpin I know nothing about SUbstack or how it operates. One difference: I presume it has no algorithm vs. XTwitter and Meta which do and may be biased.

@JohnPhilpin Yes. Yes. Thanks for writing this. I think I read your post last July too, (it felt very familiar just now), sorry didn’t comment. I think I agree with what you’ve written there and here.

I’ve written responses to the events that transpired, some private, some public, but confined to my blog. (Perhaps a bit wacky.) I didn’t make the explicit connection to bullying. But um… I think I called it illiberality and then fascism.

(Sometimes your posts/replies are a little quick for me, tbh. Like, they fly by and I’m not sure where to look, or how to make a connection. I think this is a “me” problem. Me being slow 🐢 )

@JohnPhilpin to be clear, however, I don’t like “likes” or thumbs up/down. I prefer nothing.

@lzbth yup .. not advocating for that .. and i am pretty sure that as long as Manton is in charge … that ~is~ will be ‘the way’

@bradenslen actually i read just yesterday that there is an algo floating around .. need to learn more.

I think my main point is most of what substack pushed out is email to inboxes … if I don’t subscribe i don’t get ..

Then in the app you can follow, mute and block

The only way you accidentally see stuff is on their main notes timeline … and in there i have never seen anything.

Happy to learn more if others know different.

@bradenslen the up down vote is akin to the unlike button in my head …

@bradenslen we can also get our ~~kicks on Route 66~~ likes over on the like sites.

@leeS … this is the one.

@JohnPhilpin I've never run across hard core hate stuff on Substack. I guess I don't hang out in bad web neighborhoods or go down dark alleys. I really don't explore Substack unless an article is recommended by a third party.

@JohnPhilpin Good thread. Thanks!

@leeS 👍

@JohnPhilpin Thanks. Love that last sentence, written by the PR dept. :)

@bradenslen 😉