jsonbecker
jsonbecker
POSSE is still cool json.blog
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bryan
bryan

@jsonbecker I’m pretty new to it, going on two years now, and also not a dev, but I’m in your camp for the most part. I have a few gripes as a newcomer, however.

​Mostly that it’s actually not that easy to get a fully functional engagement platform on a self-hosted blog. I like Micro.blog, but I want likes, I want reposts, I want article previews in the feed, I want post quotes, I want more moderation tools. I basically just want fully functional Bluesky/Mastodon from a CMS perspective, but then a Hugo blog on the back end. That doesn’t exist in a convenient format (although some services are getting close).

​I’ve spent the last several weeks migrating my blog to Ghost in anticipation of ActivityPub because it looks like it will be a more complete implementation. ​Also, Npub is looking very cool.

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jsonbecker
jsonbecker

@bryan that’s fair, but far more about not liking what Micro.blog has chosen to do than not liking the IndieWeb ideas. In fact, you want exactly what IndieWeb folks have tinkered around with. They built a bunch of experiments and primitives that I think pave the way to have what you want, if that’s what you want. To be honest, what you want sounds much more like Tumblr + Echofeed than Ghost or Micro.blog.

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bryan
bryan

@jsonbecker tumblr has only half of the thing I want. I wouldn’t have a website I own, and it doesn’t have ActivityPub. Maybe though once it’s integrated fully with Wordpress, it will have everything. I don’t know.

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thorgal@indieweb.social
thorgal@indieweb.social

@jsonbecker Replying to this:
> If something doesn’t have a feed, I try to make it one.

I've been doing the same by using the web scraping feature of my RSS aggregation server, #FreshRSS. Does Feedbin offer something similar?

I've been wondering, would a shared, open-source repository of such scraping rules, with importing & exporting tools for FreshRSS, Feedbin, ... be useful?

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jsonbecker
jsonbecker

@thorgal Feedbin has the newsletter -> RSS thing which helps a lot. Otherwise, I will sometimes use another service, though I've very rarely needed that. Luckily, I have not found that RSS is "dead" by any stretch, and most things I want have it.

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Havn
Havn

@jsonbecker @thorgal And if you add an RSS client like Lire, it can cache truncated RSS feeds. (I think Unread can do this as well!) This nudges things closer to everything available on RSS. 🙂

I haven't followed the entire discussion – but I think I agree with you, Jason. In general I want my stuff to be available wherever people want to read it. But if it's available "Many different places, including the most open ones", I wouldn't feel bad for not wanting to push it into platforms you don't want to support with content. It can be a little ​nudge for people to try other things.

Before checking it just now, I throught the E in "POSSE" was "everywhere" – but as it's only "elsewhere", I think my thoughts fit well with the expression. ☺️​

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thorgal@indieweb.social
thorgal@indieweb.social

Re: POSSE; I'm personally on a journey towards open protocols & standards. I sometimes manually post a comment from my Readup onto Mastodon. I haven't ever deleted a Big Social account, but I just don't use them. I also see it as an opportunity to link to my preferred web places from my old profiles.

For seven years or so, I've been logging in to my Facebook once a year to check the dwindling amount of birthday messages I get there 😆

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thorgal@indieweb.social
thorgal@indieweb.social

@Havn @jsonbecker Yes, FreshRSS also has that full-text fetching feature, it's one part of the scraping solution 🙂

I'm also happy to report that of the 146 feeds I'm following now, only 8 use full-text fetching, and 5 are fully scraped. That's great!

Still, I'm regularly encountering cool sites without feeds (including my own, for now 🙈), and sometimes I'd want to distill a sub-feed of a very busy news website that already has RSS (for example, only listing their ƒront page articles).

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Havn
Havn

@thorgal @jsonbecker If we're confessing RSS sins: I know that my galleries don't display in RSS. 🙊

(For some reason, the glightbox shortcode doesn't propogate to the RSS feed, so it's just empty.)​

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jsonbecker
jsonbecker

@thorgal @Havn I think Reeder just does this. I can't remember what parts are Reeder and what parts are Feedbin sometimes.

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jsonbecker
jsonbecker

@Havn I don't think I've seen that issue before.

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Havn
Havn

@jsonbecker @thorgal

​It might be due to some other part of my code, as galleries are a bit complicated. The one in my latest post (relevant to this discussion!), has this code:​ ​ I have a gallery div, a placeholder div and a lazy placeholder wrapper around each glightbox image.

A bit complicated, but very easy for me to make, with an edited version og @jarrod's image uploader shortcut. 👌🏻 ​ (Sorry for posting multiple times, if you got notified. Code totally bugged out on Micro.blog. Speaking of, notifications doesn't work for me on MB, so maybe I didn't bother you anyway. :P )​

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jarrod
jarrod

@Havn FWIW, toggling this in Mb settings has fixed the notifications issue for me. (Also, the gallery on your site looks sick!)

Settings screen shows browser and post options, with Push Notifications toggle for <a href="https://micro.blog/jarrod">@jarrod</a> switched on; a red arrow points to the notification toggle in the mobile app environment.

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jsonbecker
jsonbecker

@Havn if you don’t have new lines surrounding the short code while it’s in a div I think a lot of weird shit can happen. True generally for mixing html and markdown.

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Havn
Havn

@jarrod Yeah, I have that enabled — and also enabled in Settings. I tried to turn it off and on again now. 🤓 Will also try to reinstall the app!

Thanks! I’m quite pleased with the mobile gallery. ☺️ (But annoyed at a tiny Safari bug, where the last image doesn’t go quite clear off the right sided blur line. 😛)

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Havn
Havn

@jsonbecker I didn’t know the shortcode was considered Markdown. But I will try adding newlines!

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jarrod
jarrod

@Havn 🤞 (I understand your pain. There are those who care mightily about the details, and those who don’t. I know you do.)

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Havn
Havn

@jarrod I got a notification for this! 👌🏻

(Hah, you know it! 😅 I fought many hours, before accepting that I didnt know a way around that bug. 😔)

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jsonbecker
jsonbecker

@Havn confirmed that this post worked. It has div for gallery but I also just used regular markdown for the images (which is my preference over the shortcode) json.blog/2024/09/0...

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Havn
Havn

@jsonbecker Hmm, would you look at that! Yeah, both that, and some previous ones I’ve checked, work as intended. 👍🏻 Looks like things have shaken itself out. I dont know what I did. 😅

Thanks for checking and reporting back!

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