I just reached the point with Notion where if I want to upload anything else, I have to pay for it. Now, I’m over here contemplating Notion, Obsidian, Roam, or Craft.

@skoobz +1 for Obsidian and Craft (Obsidian free and Craft is included with SetApp)

@skoobz like “if I’m gonna pay, which one is more worth paying for” But if you got your workflow working well with Notion; why consider others?

@Gaby Frankly, because if I’m going to pay, then that opens up the discussion of getting the most out of my money. Obsidian comes into play due to its plugin library, so I start looking at what it can do for me. That said, I’m curious if putting its folders in iCloud Drive can get around the sync subscription, which would open up a bigger can of worms for me. I’ve seen Matt Birchler since his read later links into it, which he can then launch a shortcut that auto-formats a post for him in Ulysses to post to his site. Ulysses also posts to Micro.blog, so, that’s a possible use case for me. I’m sure the same could be done to Drafts.

@Gaby That said, in digging around, I feel like Notion is much more natural for tables and using the data from those tables for sorted data sets. My main example is my set of quick album reviews that I’ve then sorted out into best of lists for 2022 and 2023. Both of those lists update on the fly.

Digging around in Obsidian tables are done in Markdown, my least favorite way of making table, and I can’t see any way of playing with the data from there. At that point, Obsidian becomes a notes depository, and that’s a crowded field. Bear 2 just came out, and it’s freaking beautiful. Apple Notes in it’s iOS 17 form is really capable, I just hate the look of it.

Drafts is the outlier in all of this, because of how I use it. I save very little in it. Most things get acted on and trashed. Quick grocery lists, link posts to here, toots on Mastodon, ect.

@pimoore I post from Drafts more than anything else.

@pimoore @skoobz I have been using drafts recently, with an action that also lets me pick a category. But yeah with Ulysses you can edit within the app and will update the post.

@pimoore Can you export from Drafts to individual markdown text files with tags intact? If yes, then I would be comfortable keeping all text in Drafts and doing a full-export every couple of months.

@pimoore

Just to add there are tonnes of actions from drafts to obsidian

Re question from @pratik … Maybe @agiletortoise might be able to direct us … Because that becomes very interesting. Certainly there-are actions that save to files, and I know some of the obsidian actions do take the tags across … and if you think about it … exporting to obsidian is really just creating a Markdown file and saving it to the file system.

Finally, if you haven’t seen this thread … it relates..

// @skoobz @gaby @pimoore @pratik

@JohnPhilpin I haven’t tried them yet but a cursory search led me to these actions:

• Export Selected Drafts
• Save listed drafts as files

But yeah, nothing yet on exporting the entire Drafts library. @skoobz @Gaby @pimoore @Agiletortoise

@pratik both look good possibilities .. let us know how you get on.

@pratik for what its worth - save listed files just worked for me and export selected seems to work - but there is nothing in the files.

also important - the save listed files action does NOT move the tags into the files - so for example - I was thinking to export the files I used with Donny’s short cut - and then bring back in if needed - but without the tags that won’t work.

@skoobz I’ve got 2 of the 4 - and can’t wean myself off either.