@Mattfinlayson I see.

@Gabz I have had Protonmail for over a year. It has worked fine for me in general. On macOS it integrates with Apple’s official Mail app. However on iOS you have to use their client which is frankly a bit primitive. It’s good enough for me but people who like fancy features wouldn’t like it, I imagine. You can check it out for free.

@ronguest I see, yeah I don’t need fancy features. Just the normal stuff.

@Gabz I’ve used fastmail for a few years now. It’s been a pretty seamless replacement for gmail. It works with just about any mail app (I use MailMate on the Mac and Apple Mail on iOS) and their web app is decent as well.

@Gabz I’ve had ProtonMail for a year. I’m a fan. For me, the simple interface is a plus - I like my email minimalist. 🙂

@Gabz switched to fastmail ~6months ago. I have found it to be a really great service! Some cool features as well.

@Gabz Have been on Fastmail for years. Great service and they provide more than just email. Standards compliant calendars, reminders and contacts. The all sync and work great with stock iOS/Mac clients.

@andynicolaides it is, but I’m looking for other options to try. I am down to just the .me account and one gmail. Would like to get rid of the gmail to be honest but that account it’s so old and attached to many other things and services

@Cheri I had my first “bad” Protonmail experience this week: their abuse and fraud algorithm summarily shut my account down. ZenDesk cleared it up in about 11 hours, telling me what to do to avoid recurrence. How I triggered it tells me they take fraud and abuse seriously.

@ReaderJohn Sounds like a positive “bad” experience! ☺️

@Gabz about 6 months ago I was doing the same search, I ended up with FastMail. Fastmail cares about their service, security, and email protocols all together. As for "secured" I suppose that depends on your meaning of secured. I know they are a secure email company but ProtonMail provides a higher level of security just because of the features they provide to the users. I'd say it's worth signing up and using the trail account they provide you. Good luck!

@jonmolina seems like Fastmail is the most recommended, so far. Thank you for your input

@thatguygriff I think I’m gonna give it a try

@Burk so you can pull your mail from both gmail and iCloud into the fastmail app?

@Gabz yes on gmail, not sure on iCloud as I keep that as a seperate account.

@Burk I see, so, what would be the advantage of getting your gmail stuff thru Fastmail vs having your gmail in the stock Mail.app ?

@Gabz you can pull in as many imap/pop email accounts as you want. I only see the advantage being if you want access to those emails from your fastmail account (not just one email client), I did a move from my previous email to my fastmail email so I required the import otherwise I can't see why you would want to do it.

@jonmolina ah! I see what you’re saying, thank you.

@Cheri Yes. I couldn't even grouse about why they suspected me when I say the result of what I’d done (a display name that made it look like I was posing as a Protonmail employee).

@Gabz happy FM user here.

@Gabz imo, at least on iOS, the Fastmail web app is far superior to gmail’s.

@adrianizq good to know

@Gabz Fastmail! Been using it for years. You can set it up to check your gmail I think, but I just forward my gmail and iCloud to it. And set up aliases in fastmail to send as those accounts (at least gmail - I never use my icloud for email). I do know you can sync you iCloud and fastmail calendars together in Fastmail, which means you can update your calendar in the Fastmail interface and it will show up on your iCloud account.

On top of that, it’s got WebDAV and file storage.

@Gabz I like the fact that I can set up “instant aliases” to my mail. If my address is bar@fastmail.fm , then foo@bar.fastmail.fm is mine too.

@Gabz Put me down for Fastmail as well. I've been a customer for a few years now. It's web app is solid, but I mainly use it through IMAP (and CalDAV/CardDAV).

@Gabz On iOS via the stock mail app, Gmail is fetch only, no push/idle support. You can get push if you’re on GSuite.

@Gabz I’m using FastMail and love it. I use stock Apple Mail but the iOS app is nice, and you can configure a lot of stuff from the FM app. One thing I like about FastMail is the way they handle aliases.

@jmreekes so you could use the stock mail app for your Fastmail email?

@Gabz Yep. I have the FastMail app installed so I can configure rules without having to use the web app. The service is fast and I love that they allow user+x@fastmail.com and x@user.fastmail.com for aliases.

@Gabz It’s easy to configure domains with FastMail as well, so you can have @yourdomain.com addresses

@Gabz I’ve been a very happy fastmail customer for six years now. What I love about it is that it isn’t fancy but just a very stable email provider that works in every email app that support standard protocols.

@AbbaMoses ha! Is this automatic or it’s a rule you need to set up that anything from gmail that comes to Fastmail gets deleted for gmail ?

@Gabz If you decide to use FastMail, they have great help/support documentation.