@herself sure! I am creating my P.A.R.A structure and will create folders after that. I have tons of stuff on notebooks and digital (Evernote, DevonThink, Bear, etc.). I need to stop colecting and store and start writing my own ideas and connecting my own ideas with concepts. I will let you know and maybe publish in the future.
@herself @paulopinto I was using The Archive for a long while, having come from nvAlt, dipping my toe into Zettlr from time to time. I tried Obsidian, but it didn’t really work for me, I think because it didn’t feel like a true Mac app to me. I’m now on the beta of nvUltra and enjoying it.
@herself you're absolutely right. We need a bunch of data before DT starts making relations between documents. I found myself several times using DT as a clipping tool which is completely wrong. I stumble upon a very interesting article describing a flux using DT and Obsidian. I think I will try that approach.
@herself @paulopinto Here is nvUltra. It is being developed by Brett Terpstra (nvAlt) and Fletcher Penney (MultiMarkdown). It has been in beta for a long time, but is almost ready to go live. An email to firstname.lastname@example.org got me an invite to join the beta. Perhaps try that if you are interested. Simplenotes intergration is not supported in nvUltra.
@crossingthethreshold @herself it's pretty straightforward. You use Spacemacs or any other editor to write your .gmi files. Gemini protocol is very simple (not so powerful as MarkDown but powerful enough). Then you need a Gemini browser. I use Lagrange. Then you just have to create your documents and relations. But as I found Obsidian, I'm beginning to use it for my Commonplace digital books, instead of using Gemini.
@paulopinto I played with Craft a few weeks back and couldn't get into it. Your post made me return to both the Mac OS and iOS versions. It still does not work for me. I just work best wish simple text files and visible Markdown syntax. Nothing against Craft, just what works best for me.
One other app I have used has been Bear. I liked it, I still do. My move to nvUltra has been because I want to move away from my notes being kept in a data base, and move them to plain text. I have been considering another look at Obsidian because I am interested in back linking and the changing of file names. I have tried Zettelkasten methods, but while I can see their usefulness, it feels like another layer of complexity to me.
@crossingthethreshold The good thing about your method of keeping text notes in Markdown is that, like you said, they're with you and not in someone else's database. And that's why Obsidian is great; it uses your files.
I keep hearing lots of things about nvUltra, and I'm glad to see you're using the beta. But it has been in beta for so long that I consider it to be vaporware and even when Brett releases it, I'll likely avoid it because of the sloppy, haphazard rollout.
@gpittman I hear you about the rollout of nvUltra. I applied for the beta I think back in 2019 - time has disappeared down a vortex due to the pandemic, so I cannot be sure when…just a long time ago! I never heard back, gave up waiting for the first release and went elsewhere. Wanting to get back to text files made me re-apply and I got in this time, a couple of months ago.
To my untutored eye, nvUltra feels ready for prime time to me. I can't speak to why of the further delays. I have asked myself if I want to use an app that seems to be taking so long to launch. What does that look like going forward? It feels like a good, solid product - in essence nvAlt wrapped up with MultiMarkdown Editor.
Do you use Obsidian?
@peterimoore @gpittman What I say here, I consider just a personal take on the structure of apps like Drafts, Bear & Ulysses - how they fit (or don’t) into my workflow.
Drafts - I see that as a text in/text out app and so the database does not bother me. It is a place where I work on text for another destination.
Bear & Ulysses - I like their functionality. I have used both of them for a while and they both offer easy ways to export documents to plain text files. I just find that if I need a lot of files quickly, there is another layer of exporting and importing to do. Some people will not be bothered by that. I am keeping an eye on Bear which is working on a new editor and a web based version.
For now I have decided to move to straight text based.
@peterimoore For Drafts, absolutely. Apps like Bear, Ulysses, and Craft store their notes in their own databases but they do make it easy to extract them; they don't keep them inextricably siloed. iA Writer creates distinct notes that live on your drive. In fact, that makes it the perfect partner for Obsidian until (and maybe even after) there is an Obsidian app for iOS. Obsidian can see Markdown files stored in specificed folders and iA Writer can write Markdown files to those folders.