manton
manton

Big news for Epic and all iOS developers. The judge clearly put thought into this and made a reasonable, defensible compromise. It’s not everything Epic wanted, but it’s a great step forward.

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pratik
pratik

@manton So why is Epic disappointed?

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odd
odd

@manton I liked the wording.

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petebrown
petebrown

@pratik "In a separate judgment, the court affirmed that Epic Games was in breach of its contract with Apple when it implemented the alternative payment system in the Fortnite app. As a result, Epic must pay Apple 30 percent of all revenue collected through the system since it was implemented — a sum of more than $3.5 million."

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pratik
pratik

@petebrown Ah! But moving forward, isn't it better for Epic?

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manton
manton

@pratik I’m not sure. Fortnite is still banned. I think it’s a win but how it effects Epic might take longer to unravel.

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petebrown
petebrown

@pratik Sure, but they’re still out a few million bucks.

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rom
rom

@pratik because it didn’t get what it wants and now they have to pay damages.

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rom
rom

@pratik Apple preempted this with the previous announcement but exclusive for “reader” apps - this one opens it up for all. However, if I read it correctly, Apple can still collect commissions even if payment is from alternative payment method (contract with developers). Finally, Apple still gets to ban Epic Fail Games for non-compliance.

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pratik
pratik

@rom How can they collect commissions if an alternate payment system is used? FWIW, as a non-developer and just a user, I prefer to only pay Apple. I’m not giving out my details to dozens of developers’ payment systems.

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ronguest
ronguest

@pratik Back in the days of shareware there was a payment provider called Kagi which among other things addressed this type of concern. And yes they took a cut…

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pratik
pratik

@ronguest Too much hullaballoo about a minor issue in the tech world. Apple could perhaps reduce their cut and in some cases they have. Probably it's fine to even let users sign up via the app or direct them to the web but I don't want to see a slew of payment options on the App Store or even within apps.

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rom
rom

@pratik that is the same question for me - how, indeed - but as I have mentioned there is a contract between Apple and the developers and there is the commission. Wondering if the commission only applies to app store payment method.

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