@bradenslen I can say the same about your directory. We share some opinions about the indieweb and how it's become harder on the web to find what you call 'handy lnks.' The current trending back to personal, independent sites is exciting. The linkport goes back to 2000 in its current form. I've been watching and 'curating' links since 1997. Hope you explore(d) the daily pointers in the right sidebar. Thanks for the feedback.
.@jenett Do you have a feed for the epic amount of curation you do? I did see the pointers feed. I mean does your Linkport have it's own feed? I've tried to set up linkblogs in the past. For some reason I fail at updating them. This makes me want to get back to doing mine though. I had one from 2012 until around 2016 or so. I still keep webspinner.me up and going, but it needs to be revived. I'm thinking my directory efforts can do that.
@hope I've never encountered a linkblog as well setup and thought out as @jenett has done with Linkport. At first I thought it was a custom directory thing. @kicks and I had talked about using tagging or categories for a non-hierarchical directory early on. Jenett has pretty well achived that with a linkblog. It's a really good use of off the shelf blog script.
But there is another part to this that goes beyond scripts and designs. There is a lot of hard work that went into collecting, sorting and curating links over many years building a large index. That took a lot of work.
@hope I did some searches for linkblogs last night. Most do not have their own search and most do not have categories. They are just streams of links which soon get pushed down off the front page and into archives. So what would make a linkblog really usable are the dedicated search of the links and categorizing each link with the category titles on display.
@hope That is fantastic! It sounds to me like the linkhole could be the foundation for a linkblog search thing useable by the public. Dedicate a search for it at the minimum. Recipes always seem popular. Right now blogs are not popular but awareness is growing and having a big index of blogs is an important resource IMHO. You definitely have something good there.
@bradenslen Recipes are pretty popular! Lol I could probably make a recipe search engine. I also have lots and lots of blog feed addresses. I could also make an rss feed engine. That's why I thought one big directory that's updated on a regular basis, that has an RSS feed and a design like a linkblog but the category structure of a directory would probably be the best thing.
@bradenslen Mine used to have tags. That's because I used the built-in tags feature from WP. It started on Tumblr and Tumblr made heavy use of tags. When I flipped it over to it's own WP install, I stuck with that. Eventually it ended up on @blot. While that was fun, using Dropbox as a way of blogging seemed like it could be a problem if I posted too much.
@bradenslen I'm sure there are some epic search plugins for WP. When I was looking at the linky plugins for WP I was like hmm... couldn't these be used to manage a linkblog that updates regularly? I'm sure that one could be used for the administration of links. I'm not a huge fan of the way Press this works, but I'd be looking for something quick like that for updating.
@jgmac1106 Heh, I need to gronk this whole tag thing and how to parse it.
I'm just thinking out loud so don't mind me if this doesn't apply to you: why not just start a linkblog? What if you dedicated a Known or WP instance as a linkblog with full Indieweb plugins so that every time you curate a link a webmention is sent out? This is something I wanted to do but didn't know that the tools were available. Even if you only used it for your bookmarks and following you would end up with something really useful and something you could do on the fly.
The reason I mention a dedicated instance is, after seeing @jenett 's setup, one really must have the dedicated search of the linkblog index and the categories so people can find stuff. The old school linkblogs just won't do.
@hope There are a lot. Here are two that caught my eye. WP Fulltext Search this enhances the WP native search without replacing it. I've been happy with it on a convetional blog. I'm not sure if it would work as well on a linkblog. I went with it because it didn't replace the default search in WP only added too it. I was too chicken to completely replace.
Better Search is the other one. It replaces the default WP search function. It sounds pretty good but I haven't tried it.
There are a lot more.
@jgmac1106 Hrrm, I'm really just a weekend mechanic. Everything beyond HTML is "High Level Coding" to me, I might understand the theory but not I'm not able to code it. This is more @kicks forte. He know stuff. He reads books. :-)
That said, Greg, you are on to something. That and I still think you could make an awesome linkblog.
@bradenslen It was the note on your pinboard that indicated to me your understanding of its hybrid nature. Though it's kind of like a linklog, it's actually more of a directory to resources in my mind. The daily pointers archive seems more a linklog to me. If you care to understand more about the motivation behind the daily pointers, see iwebthings.com/i.webthin... .
@jenett It really is a directory, with the added bonus of fresh new links like a traditional linkblog. Win - win.
Good article on daily pointers. I was wondering, why have both? The lack of new sites and lots of URL's going dead were big factors in my pulling the plug on my remaining niche directories back in 2006.
@bradenslen It's been useful through the years for sharing links to personal blgs/sites that are still online. I thought of pulling the plug (on the daily pointers) for the same reasons but decided to keep it going with a combination of new links and repeat links to sites with recent updates, along with working hard to keep it clean of bad links. Yes, it all takes a lot of time but fortunately, I enjoy doing it - it's in my blood.
@kicks Thanks for the compliment kicks. Though it's never totally free of bad links, a fair amount of time is spent revisiting sites along with periodic link checking sessions. Glad to know you couldn't find one - yay! I found your blog recently via this very thread - very unique. Spoiler alert: It's in the pointers queue.
@kicks I'm just seeing this and appreciate your interest (and your's too, @Ron ). These are thought-provoking questions and will take me some time to process. I've been meaning to write more about some of these things.
The web, and the way I approach it, has changed drastically over the years. For now, a few things I find most useful for discovering links: People, as in people with similar interests who publically share bookmarks on Pinboard; and people with personal blogs and sites who link to what they like (bring back the blogrolls, please). Micro.blog and the indieweb movement are helping bring more people back to blogging, which is certainly helpful in discovering more of the types of sites I like to share.
As far as tools go, a good feed reader (with filtering) is a must. Sifting takes time and feeds save time. For searching, The 'human-edited' directory @bradenslen is building is an excellent discovery tool.
Stay tuned - I'll definitely put some thought into answering your other questions. Glad to meet both of you too!
@jenettIt was, in fact a linkblog.
@kicks Regarding “hand-checking the whole thing,” the periodic revisiting of sites is more of a spot-checking thing. Using a link-checking tool is the better way to check a large number of links at a time. I can safely say the majority of the links are good links but keeping up with link-checking is a challenge (it's time-consuming). I'm convinced that being totally free of bad links is the right goal but reaching it is impossible.
@JohnPhilpinI'm a former blot user. I use WP now.
@hope if you mean the list ?? i am tracking blot users that are also mb users in the hope that we can help each other with nuances - e.g. right now - O am trying to work out why my blot posts suddenly no longer get posted to MB?
Other blogs I have are cross posting to MB just fine.
Both my blot posts are cross posting to other places not called Micro Blog.
Started around three days ago … and wondering if this has reared its head again .... except other people seem to be posting to MB just fine.
what’s a boy to do!
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