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bradenslen
bradenslen
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manton
manton

@bradenslen @jeremycherfas It's a similar question to what we've had with Micro.blog — choosing to leverage existing blog platforms (and the IndieWeb) instead of creating official Micro.blog-compatible software you have to install.

EddieHinkle
EddieHinkle
@bradenslen You make some interesting points. I think one of the things that has gotten us where we are is because often time when a community has a specific primary project as it's focus, its creates a monoculture around that. (Read on [Principle: Plurality(https://indieweb.org/plurality) for more on that). That said, I think we have reached the point in growth with various projects including a commercial product in Micro.blog that it is time to develop 1 (or 2, for plurality sake) turn-key IndieWeb CMS solutions. I think by building and producing such projects now, it is unlikely that it will overtake the current plurality of options. This is also true because even the most simple one click install will never be as easy as Micro.blog, which means we will always have many options for the IndieWeb.
Ron
Ron

@bradenslen In your important role as Blog Platform Explorer, it might be a good idea for you to look over the interesting work of a new user on Micro.blog called @ka. This stuff is over my head, but it won't be for you. You probably know about this already, but just in case. . .

bradenslen
bradenslen

@manton I think the original choice was valid when the Indieweb started out as a movement. But now I think the landscape has changed and different and a greater number of approaches are needed with Micro.blog in that mix and something self hosted, that just works, in that mix.

bradenslen
bradenslen

@Ron you give me way too much credit, but I thank you! I'm just an Admin Panel jockey - if I can control it from an admin panel I'm good, but I can't code at all. It's over my head too.

Ron
Ron

@bradenslen Hey, coding not required, by thee or me. We've got LOTS of people around here who can do that stuff. As a talented explorer, you have a clear idea of where you'd like to get and when you get there, maybe you'll be able to help boost me up that last rocky path to the summit. And along the way, maybe we're gonna have a fun ride, whether we reach the very top or not.

ka
ka

@Ron hey there! Thanks for the shoutout but I am not sure what you are exactly referring to, I just customized Micro.blog theme with some CSS.

Ron
Ron

@ka I scanned over your posts on github, which were much more interesting than anything you posted here. They included having an eye on interactions btwn the WP guy and FB, as well as an interest in documentation, which I believe is the biggest need here, if Micro.blog is to get much bigger.

ka
ka

@Ron ah that makes sense :)

jenett
jenett

@bradenslen I recently added webmentions to my simply.micro blog which does use Wordpress and it was easy. After researching how to implement webmentions for 2 other non-Wordpress blogs, I simply have to agree with you. Unless you're using Wordpress, the idea of implementing webmentions seems too challenging for most bloggers. (including static-site blogs). Just like anything else in tech, a little inter-operability needs to be present in webmentions. Of course, I'm using an old legacy version of Moveabletype on those other blogs so I'm not surprised that it's not included on the list of plugins available at indieweb.org/Webmentio...

bradenslen
bradenslen

@jenett What is easy for somebody with coding knowledge may well be incomprehencible to others. I think we often forget that. That and most bloggers just want to write and find a way to interact with others more. They don't want to nursemaid their blog script, they want to write.

Ron
Ron

@bradenslen Absolutely 100% important to remember!! I've been here since the Kickstarter and have seen tons of new features added. Manton kindly added the Archive feature to my blog. None of the other features have been implemented, because I have not taken the time to try to wrap my wits around all the suggestions. Yet I have actively participated in the community with my writing. I'd rather spend my time writing, rather than trying to figure out how to get the fancy stuff working. But if the platform is ever to expand beyond its very narrow focus of the technically agile folks in the Apple world, it will need to be very easy to use for the average person on the web . . . much easier than it is now.

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JohnPhilpin
JohnPhilpin

@jenett still got web mentions on the todo list